#6523 (dist-upgrade our servers to Debian 13)
by Luc Saffre · in Hosting (system administration) · assigned to hannes
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- 6 Monate, 2 Wochen ago von Luc Saffre about #6523 (dist-upgrade our servers to Debian 13) : The journald was using 2.6 GB on laudate. I optimized getlino to create a daily cron job "journal-vacuum".
- 6 Monate, 2 Wochen ago von Luc Saffre about #6523 (dist-upgrade our servers to Debian 13) : I restored the ets site. TODO: restore the welcht1 site. I wonder whether I should I combine this site to the env of ets...
- 6 Monate, 2 Wochen ago von Luc Saffre about #6523 (dist-upgrade our servers to Debian 13) : Thunderbird now says "Sending of the message failed. The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed. The configuration related to mail.laudate.ee must be corrected." This seems to be a problem with TLS config. OMG! I'm going to have fun: www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html#quick-start
- 6 Monate, 2 Wochen ago von Luc Saffre about #6523 (dist-upgrade our servers to Debian 13) : I upgraded laudate to Debian 13 using our standard procedure (and for dovecot I decided to install the package maintainer's version when asked). A surprise: after the upgrade, dovecot worked out of the box and I got a few hundred mails to luc@laudate.ee that had been waiting patiently for me to retri...
- 9 Monate, 1 Woche ago von Luc Saffre about #6523 (dist-upgrade our servers to Debian 13) : I gave up for today and restored the SR server once more from the backup of Jan 16.
- 9 Monate, 1 Woche ago von Luc Saffre about #6523 (dist-upgrade our servers to Debian 13) : Indeed postfix uses helper processes that continue to work even after service restart. I did several reboot. I think that the actual problem is not fixed. The messages stopped because sendmail had been killed, but as soon as i try to send an email (or as soon as some email arrives from somebody else...
- 9 Monate, 1 Woche ago von Luc Saffre about #6523 (dist-upgrade our servers to Debian 13) : SR is back online, but emails still vanish with "Read-only file system". I wrote a blog post with details about the current situation: luc.lino-framework.org/blog/2026/0118.html
- 9 Monate, 1 Woche ago von Luc Saffre Antwort auf Luc Saffre about #6523 (dist-upgrade our servers to Debian 13) : For the openssl and monit and opendkim packages I selected ENTER ("keep your currently-installed version"). Also for /etc/ssh/sshd_config/etc/default/grub, /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg
But for all the files under /etc/dovecot/ I said "install the package maintainer's version". I then applied the instruction... - 9 Monate, 1 Woche ago von Luc Saffre Antwort auf Luc Saffre about #6523 (dist-upgrade our servers to Debian 13) : No, the fact that a backup process started while we were upgrading did theoretically not disturb our upgrade process, it just caused that backup to be invalid.
- 9 Monate, 1 Woche ago von Luc Saffre Antwort auf Luc Saffre about #6523 (dist-upgrade our servers to Debian 13) : I started the restore (so SR isn't online for a while now).
- 9 Monate, 1 Woche ago von Luc Saffre about #6523 (dist-upgrade our servers to Debian 13) (3 Antworten) : I now realized that yesterday's backup was maybe the reason for the failure. Our backups are scheduled to start at 9:19 UTC. Yesterday at this moment Hannes and I were heavily upgrading. So I must restore the backup of Jan 16, not Jan 17.
- 9 Monate, 1 Woche ago von Luc Saffre about #6523 (dist-upgrade our servers to Debian 13) : Yesterday evening I restored SR from the backup because dovecot was too broken. I'll retry the dist-upgrade and this time I'll choose "Apply maintainer's default config" for dovecot.
- 9 Monate, 1 Woche ago von Luc Saffre about #6523 (dist-upgrade our servers to Debian 13) : Upgrade from bookworm to trixie is complicated because dovecot requires a series of changes in its config files. Hannes and I had a series of "sudo systemctl restart dovecot" followed by "sudo journalctl -xeu dovecot.service". Helpful information was in doc.dovecot.org/main/installation/upgrade/2.3...
- 10 Monate, 1 Woche ago von Luc Saffre about #6523 (dist-upgrade our servers to Debian 13) : I followed the instructions on hosting.lino-framework.org/topics/distupgrade for SR, but something is missing, it didn't upgrade to Debian 13. @hannes please call me when you are available for a Jitsi meeting.
- 10 Monate, 1 Woche ago von Luc Saffre about #6523 (dist-upgrade our servers to Debian 13) : On SR, sudo apt update says things like "239 packages can be upgraded." or Repository '...' changed its 'Suite' value from 'stable-security' to 'oldstable-security'. I started sudo apt upgrade: 238 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
- 10 Monate, 1 Woche ago von Luc Saffre about #6523 (dist-upgrade our servers to Debian 13) : Created new Ticket #6523 (dist-upgrade our servers to Debian 13).