#5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity)

40 · by Luc Saffre · in Developers · assigned to Luc Saffre

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#5876 (tim2lino bridge for Peppol) ( 40 by Luc Saffre in Developers assigned to Luc Saffre)

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1 année, 4 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : book/docs/plugins/peppol/documents.rst:185 currently fails with an UnexpectedException. I asked from the Ibanity forum: I read that "status" attribute in the OutboundDocument resource is deprecated and I'm now supposed to read "technicalStatus". But it looks like the resource returned in a sandbox d...
1 année, 5 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) (1 reply) : I must now reactivate fijal on bombur because in two hours i've a meeting with the customer.
1 année, 5 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) (1 reply) : The bug was indeed a simple typo. But the next surprise is more serious: Peppol refuses negative amounts for invoice lines. TIM uses lines with negative amount to indicate explicit discounts.
1 année, 5 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) (1 reply) : I am working on the resend_document action. I'm testing it on the field.
1 année, 5 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Another thing to do: the ResendDocument action should not just mark the document for getting resent during next CheckPeppol run but should send it immediately.
1 année, 5 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Next steps: (1) I started a new data import for nols: check the results (2) import data for fijal, (3) send a fictive invoice from nols to fijal, (4) start running tim2lino daily without initdb (i.e. import only changed data).
1 année, 5 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Uff! For the first time in history I managed to get Ibanity to accept a real invoice from Lino. Of course it gives an error because the customer is not registered to Peppol: [{'code': 'error-customer-not-registered', 'detail': "Identifier 'iso6523-actorid-upis::9925:be0607948389' is not registered ...
1 année, 5 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : And here comes the second upgrade to Jane today. Because I'll test update_supplier() directly in our production site. Writing full tests would be much work, and because anyway this functionality will probably be used only by us and only on Jane.
1 année, 5 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : TODO: implement update_supplier(). I realized only now that we didn't yet have this.
1 année, 5 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) (1 reply) : I will now release to Jane because I have an optimization in peppol_sync to test.
1 année, 5 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) (1 reply) : Here is the next error message. Now Peppol complains because the lines have too many decimal positions. Which mans that Lino must *not* loop over what we call "invoice items" when rendering what Peppol calls "invoice lines" because a trading invoice can contain many items with small amounts, which a...
1 année, 5 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I pushed my changes to increase decimal places for prices in invoice lines from 2 to 4. Local test suite passes, but we have no example invoice that covers these cases, so I'll test it out on the real data.
1 année, 5 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) (1 reply) : I have a next Peppol error message: No transmissionId in {'data': {'id': 'f1489f0e-29aa-4885-ba75-9076e371b6f6', 'type': 'peppolInvoice', 'attributes': {'createdAt': '2025-04-29T05:46:46.501Z', 'errors': [{'code': 'invalid-schematron', 'detail': '[BR-CO-17]-VAT category tax amount (BT-117) = VAT cat...
1 année, 5 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : todo: run tim2lino without initdb
1 année, 6 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I'm now importing tim2lino for the two sites on bombur. When this is done, I can continue to play with the Ibanity API.
1 année, 6 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Uff! I got the sales invoices to pass through the new validation rules! Interpreting error messages of an XML validator is not always trivial.
1 année, 6 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I'm now testing the invoices generated by Lino on Ecosio with the rule set "OpenPeppol UBL Invoice (2024.11) (aka BIS Billing 3.0.18)", which is mandatory for Ibanity. What a pity that I didn't know this earlier. Until now I had been validating with "UBL Invoice 3.0". Right now my next Error messag...
1 année, 6 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) (1 reply) : I wrote a simple action PeppolSendable.create_outbound... it shows up... but clicking on it gives a js console error message "Uncaught (in promise) TypeError: s is undefined".
1 année, 6 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : And we don't need a fourth VoucherStates "sent" when we have a virtualfield "Sent".
1 année, 6 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I got answers from Ibanity support: I had been validating the generated XML against the wrong variant of Peppol validator. There are actually hundreds of variants but at least for Ibanity I must use this one. While testing, I realized that Lino is still missing a link to jump from the sales invoice ...
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) (1 reply) : todo: what to do with fields like partner_ref. Some sites want this field, others don't.
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : todo: add is_outbound to CompanyDetail and JournalDetail.
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I changed the verbose name "Peppol acces" back to "Ibanity supplier". Because the word "access" is too strange for a database model...
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : But who knows. Maybe it turns out to be useful that Ibanity suppliers are linked to a company. Especially because with the fix_all_problems which I added yesterday it is now relatively intuitive. I also changed the verbose_name of ibanity.Supplier to "Peppol access". Not sure whether this is the nec...
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Today I realized that it is pretty useless to link ibanity.Supplier to a company (isn't it?). Something to meditate tonight.
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I optimized the suppliers detail window and fixed a bug in data checker. TODO: find a better verbose_name than "Supplier".
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : TODO: write a watch_tim procedure that imports new invoices and suppliers from the legacy database.
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : TODO: write two demo tours for the two ibanity scenarios. In noi1r when I create a supplier for Bernd Brechts Bücherladen, it sets the country to Estonia. Should be Germany.
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I pushed another set of changes. Adding a new upload shortcut "source document" caused quite some changes in doctests and fixtures, especially in welfare.
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : todo: the embedded pdf version of an invoice isn't decoded correctly into a file. And Lino must assign an upload type to the pdf file so that end users can find it easily.
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Todo: the ↗ of the ibanity.InboundDocument.voucher opens the invoice using the default table for vat.AccountInvoice instead of ibanity.ReceivedInvoices
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Todo: a quicklink for running the sync_ibanity system task.
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : We should have a separate detail view for accounting invoices that get imported via Peppol.
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : When receiving an XML invoice, Lino now reads the total amount and inserts an item with the provider's default account. It ignores most other information in the XML file. Anyway the end users will probably want to manually review the incoming invoices.
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I pushed my work of the last days (in lino, xl, book, prima and others).
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : NB I enhanced the make_captured_image() function so that it supports a filename. I use this to create attachments from an incoming Peppol invoice.
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : The XML of an incoming invoice can contain multiple binary attachments. And we don't want Lino to parse the XML each time a list of download links to the attached files of an invoice is requested. So we probably want to use the uploads plugin. Or should I reactivate the inbox plugin? This plugin ha...
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : TODO: Where exactly should create_from_ubl() store the attached files? In an uploads.Volume? Or in a subdir of media? Or in a subdir of static? These attached files are less valuable than the raw inbound xml file because the latter contains them as embedded binary objects.
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : TODO: add an attribute Voucher.pdf_file; create_from_ubl() must save the attached files; add a link to open the attached files in inbox.
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Maybe my last question before starting integration: Is it common practice to attach a PDF version when sending an invoice? And is this done by adding a cac:AdditionalDocumentReference element?
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : One last thing to do before starting the integration phase is importing the inbound documents.
1 année, 7 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Uff, I finally got the invoices generated by Lino in cosi1 to pass on Ecosio! The file lino_xl/lib/vat/config/vat/peppol-ubl.xml contains a lot of work!
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : TODO: finish VAT categories, fix Ecosio error messages, adapt the test suite.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Before starting the integration phase with Ibanity, i want to finish the validation of invoices. The xml invoices generated by Lino do not yet fully validate on Ecosio. It currently says "Invoice line net amount MUST equal (Invoiced quantity * (Item net price/item price base quantity) + Sum of invoi...
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) (1 reply) : Uff, I committed my work about Peppol of the last days. I'm far from having finished, but I'm advancing.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I'm still thinking about where to store the xml files. Incoming xml files are potentially valuable data (similar to uplads) while outgoing xml files are merely cache files (similar generated pdf files).
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) (1 reply) : TIL that we probably need another database model "Customer" because otherwise we would need for each incoming document another Ibanity request to find the VAT id of the partner.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Today I finally started with importing an XML document into a Lino voucher. It's only on my computer right now.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I must define the ibanity data checkers only when with_suppliers is True, but *not* only when credentials are defined. Because otherwise I'll never get the doctests pass. Of course. But it took me some time to realize this.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I am having a failure in docs/plugins/accounting.rst which seems to be caused by some other doctest modifying the database content.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I fixed a series of doctest failures in book. TODO: Talk about how to organize this.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) (2 replies) : Before starting to parse them, I also should try to get local validation running.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Lino now checks the inbox for new inbound documents. Next step will be to download them and create accounting.AccountInvoice instances from them. This will be fun, we will parse the xml file.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : The sync_ibanity() background task has now three steps: collect_outbound(), send_outbound() and followup_outbound(), and this seems all I can do about outbound documents as long as I am only in sandbox mode. Tomorrow I'll start with the inbound documents.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : The ibanity plugin injects a checkbox field "is_outbound" into contacts.Journal and into contacts.Partner, This field should be checked (1) for journal SLS and (2) for some partners. It must not be set for partners without a vat_id.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : The sync_ibanity() background task now has two parts: (1) load new invoices into the Peppol outbox and (2) send the invoices of the outbox to Ibanity. After sending the voucher's state is set to "sent". TODO: Make sure that simple end users cannot deregister a voucher that has been sent; refuse (de)...
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : TODO: I now have two tables "Outbox" and "Sent". How to get the invoices from former to latter? Do we want to give users a possibility to manually select them one by one? In real life the users want everything to go automatically... that's for tomorrow.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Today i started to see that we will have 2 database models OutboundDocument and InboundDocument.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I asked the following question in the Ibanity Slack forum: Hello, I am working on implementing Ibanity support for Lino. The Ibanity API documentation has three very similar sections about outbound documents: Invoice, Credit Note and Document. Everything seems to be the same for these three section...
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I scheduled a 2nd meeting with the Ibanity sales representative. Maybe I should now pass from "sandbox" mode to "integration" mode. But the sandbox mode was free, now they will want money.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Create and get now work for outbound documents. Of course I am still testing only in the sandbox right now.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I finally jumped back into ibanity. This time I started with outbound documents.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : This morning I had an answer to my email to soluz.io in my inbox. There is a certain hope that we don't need to migrate our TIM customers to Lino because the banks are going to offer usable solutions for importing sales invoices from an XML file.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Lino now also creates suppliers on Ibanity when the supplier_id is empty. Todo: write test cases to cover this.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : The test suites pass on my computer, I published my work in progress (to lino, xl and book).
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I'm advancing in my test suite.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : The data checker for suppliers now (more or less) does its job when the supplier_id is already set. To do next: create a supplier when supplier_id is empty.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Todo: how to organize the tests. Online tests require at least a sandbox certificate, which we don't have on GitLab. And then their sandbox supplier has a fictive VAT id "BE1234567890", which doesn't satisfy the rules. Lino complains with a django.core.exceptions.ValidationError: ['Modulo 97 check f...
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : The synchronization of the suppliers defined in Lino with those defined on Ibanity is done as a data checker. I have first successes: - Supplier object (1) : (★) Some fields need update: onboarding_state, phone, street, street_no, vat_id, zip_code
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I saw my first Peppol registration in noi1r :-) Next steps: load demo data. Which tests can I run in the sandbox?
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I asked another question in the Slack forum: Here is what I imagine so far: I will register my customers in the Ibanity API as end users (suppliers). And then these customers will use the Ibanity API to submit their outbound documents and receive their inbound documents. How does Ibanity API differ...
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : After meditating this I now believe that we don't need a "peppol" plugin, for the end users (Noi) there will just be some plugin settings in the accounting plugin to activate/configure peppol connectivity. But we do need a plugin "ibanity", used in Noi, with a model "Contract" or "Registration", whi...
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Geoffrey (Slack forum) answered my questions and helped me to understand that Peppol support affects two Lino applications: in Lino Noi we must register our customers as Ibanity end users, and Lino Così for the end users. OMG there is much to do!
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I asked a question in the Ibanity Slack team (and I am a bit locked until I understood this): The ibanity e-invoicing API has methods for creating, updating and deleting my suppliers. Why does it have this only for my suppliers and not for my customers?
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I voice-called soluz.io in Mechelen to ask whether they received my email (to which they didn't yet answer). The phone operator knew that the capital of Estonia is Tallinn :-) and she promised to tell her colleague that I called.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Today I advanced with [url dev.lino-framework.org/plugins/peppol.html] (it's far from being finished, but I advanced). And I managed to ask my next question in their Slack forum.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I published my work in progress on the new peppol plugin. The plugin is not yet useful, but the test suite should pass. I use it to explore the Ibanity API, trying to understand how Lino should communicate with it.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I wrote an email to soluz.io but before sending it I need to repair the cosi1 public demo site.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Another variable that is currently unknown: is Ibanity the right partner for us? What I wrote yesterday fully depends on Ibanity as Peppol AP. I should try at least one other possibility as well. It seems that [url www.soluz.io/general-9 soluz.io] might be a candidate. There are many [url peppol.org...
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I am still wondering what Hermes will become. Hermes would be the most straightforward solution to our problems if it would accept to upload sales invoices as XML files (which TIM could easily generate). In this case we wouldn't need the Peppol plugin at all. But we don't know it and I don't know wh...
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Here is an introduction in English: [url www.grantthornton.be/en/the-field/articles-and-publications/BTW/e-invoicing-benefits-and-the-introduction-of-the-belgian-e-mandate2/ Mandatory e-invoicing in B2B sector will enter into force in Belgium on 1 January 2026 part 2: Peppol Network, scope, fiscal i...
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I started the lino_xl.lib.peppol plugin.
1 année, 8 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I had a look at [url www.dolibarr.org/onlinedemo.php dolibarr.org], which is worth a deeper dive some day when we have time. Right now I just wanted to see whether Dolibarr supports e-invoicing. Seems not so.
1 année, 9 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Created new Ticket #5876 (tim2lino bridge for Peppol).
1 année, 9 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Geoffrey helped me to find the last mistakes in my script. Great! Now I can continue. Next step is to submit a sales invoice.
1 année, 9 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Geoffrey answered again on their Slack forum, and it seems that he got it to work, but my script does not work and I don't see any mistake. I wrote [url luc.lino-framework.org/blog/2025/0123.html a next blog post] in order to help him to help me.
1 année, 9 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Geoffrey answered, and I did more testing, and reported again in a [url luc.lino-framework.org/blog/2025/0122.html blog post] and copied this blog post to their slack forum.
1 année, 9 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I finished a blog post [url luc.lino-framework.org/blog/2025/0118.html] and asked this question in their Slack forum.
1 année, 9 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I managed to do a second request to ibanity (a list of known suppliers).
1 année, 9 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I successfully got a sandbox account in the Ibanity developer portal. Now I am trying to write a script that connects to my sandbox. [url documentation.ibanity.com/security#http-signature]
1 année, 9 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I created a Personal space to get to know the Ibanity API. They said "When you're ready to create and manage shareable applications, including live ones, you should create a team or ask a collaborator to invite you."
1 année, 9 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I submitted a question to [url ibanity.com/products/flowin-einvoicing] asking whether they are the right partner for us.
1 année, 9 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I had a first local success with converting the Lino Jinja template for the Peppol invoice into TIM syntax.
1 année, 10 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I started to write code in TIM. First a function VenWriteBis(), which will parse a file VEN2BIS.XML
1 année, 10 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I saw a presentation [url m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wy4qAv2K5c Peppol and Odoo: Empowering (E)Invoicing for the Future] on YouTube, and Anders answered my issue. It's now clear that Rumma & Ko not going to be an access point. I wrote a summary of my research to Birgit and now wait for her feedback.
1 année, 10 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I posted [url github.com/iterasdev/peppol-py/issues/2 an issue at the peppol-py project].
1 année, 10 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : OMG! I stumbled into [url github.com/pondersource/peppol-php], which says: "The popular EU-backed e-invoicing network "Peppol" requires both the sender and the receiver to connect through a licensed gateway. This has obvious drawbacks: only registered legal entities from the 39 participating gove...
1 année, 10 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I saw the Hermes platform with one of my customers. Hermes is a good thing for them because they can consult and print their incoming invoices there, but it does not have an interfact for uploading XML files with sales invoices. So my question is still unanswered: how can TIM or Lino upload an XML f...
1 année, 10 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : The peppol-py package uses the [url ec.europa.eu/digital-building-blocks/sites/display/DIGITAL/eDelivery+Connectivity+testing eDelivery Connectivity Testing service].
1 année, 10 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I started to read documentation at ec.europa.eu: [url ec.europa.eu/digital-building-blocks/sites/display/DIGITAL/Compliance+with+eInvoicing+standard Compliance with the European standard on eInvoicing: Explaining the standard].
1 année, 10 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I had a phone call with Jean, who described how his accounting software sends invoices via PEPPOL, and afterwards searched for "PEPPOL API": The EU maintains a public REST API for finding companies: [url directory.peppol.eu/public/menuitem-docs-rest-api] and peppol.com has a [url peppol.com/about-p...
1 année, 11 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I started a Calc sheet to gather the TIM users who are concerned. Tried to find useful links, but without notable result. It seems that operations under 3000€ don't need an e-invoice. OMG it seems that the Belgian VAT law text is not available in public for free, you must [url juristax.be/produit/le...
1 année, 11 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : "Service metadata publishing (SMP) was introduced to eDelivery network by PEPPOL project [REF7]. The purpose of the SMP is similar to an address book or business registry. eDelivery participants (message senders and receivers) use SMP to publish their transport/service capabilities and to discover p...
2 ans ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : It was interesting to get a glance on what's happening with eDelivery. A good example was the presentation about [url www.emsa.europa.eu/emsw.html EMWSe]. The participants were high-level project managers. My big question was how e-Invoicing will affect TIM users, and there was no hope to get an an...
2 ans ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Tomorrow I plan to attend to a meeting of the eDeliverability Forum and the [url ec.europa.eu/digital-building-blocks/sites/display/EDELCOMMUNITY/eDelivery+Interoperability+Forum.+24+October+2024 agenda] says that there will be a "Member roundtable" where we should "Introduce yourself and your inte...
2 ans, 1 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I discovered only now a document that had been published shortly after I stopped working on this ticket for lack of information: [url efacture.belgium.be/fr/article/les-factures-electroniques-structurees-entre-entreprises-deviendront-obligatoires-partir-de Les factures électroniques structurées entr...
2 ans, 3 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Cool! The pdf invoice now contains a text "e-invoice: /media/beppol/ubl118.xml" when the customer has a vat id. The xml file gets generated together with the pdf. (Next steps: tidy up and commit, finish validation, contact Hermes and think how to transmit the xml file to an access point.
2 ans, 3 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Generating the xml file must not be an independent action, it must rather happen when the pdf file gets generated.
2 ans, 3 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : The "almost" in my previous comment was important, there is still much to learn. I'm still at 30 errors. Right now it seems that we need 2 identification numbers for each partner: the VAT number and the national company number.
2 ans, 3 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I am advancing (slowly but steadily): I now understand (almost) all the elements in the the XML generated by Lino, and [url ecosio.com/en/peppol-and-xml-document-validator/ ecosio validator] already passes the XML syntax and Schema. I reached the next level, Schematron validation, where I started wi...
2 ans, 3 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I wrote a [url luc.lino-framework.org/blog/2024/0704.html test case in my blog]: no, pyvat does not validate Belgian company numbers. Only VAT numbers. Which means that when sending a sales invoice to a non-profit or an insurance (examples of companies that have no VAT number) we will have a proble...
2 ans, 3 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I continued studying the docs in order to learn what information needs to be supplied. Currently I am in [url docs.peppol.eu/poacc/billing/3.0/syntax/ubl-invoice/cac-InvoiceLine/cac-Item/cac-ClassifiedTaxCategory/ Item.ClassifiedTaxCategory] where you must specify an ID element with one of the cod...
2 ans, 3 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I did more digging. It seems that the VAT id won't be enough. In Belgium there are legal persons like e.g. insurances who are not VatSubjectable and have no VAT id, but they do have a national company number. I'm now wondering whether pyvat accepts these.
2 ans, 4 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I worked almost 2 hours to insert jinja codes into the example of the xml file. I'm advancing but not yet ready to publish.
2 ans, 4 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I discovered [url peppol.helger.com/public peppol.helger.com], which offers a WebService to automatically validate PEPPOL documents according to the latest PEPPOL rules. And [url ecosio.com/en/peppol-and-xml-document-validator/ ecosio.com] has an online validator where I can manually upload an xml ...
2 ans, 4 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I joined the [url ec.europa.eu/digital-building-blocks/sites/display/EDELCOMMUNITY/eDelivery+User+Community eDelivery User Community] in the hope of getting help.
2 ans, 4 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I played two hours with the Schematron files, but LXML refuses to load them. Details, including a tested code snippet, in [url luc.lino-framework.org/blog/2024/0624.html my blog]. Next step is to find out where th ask for help with this...
2 ans, 4 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Aha: The Schematron files are used for validating the generated xml file.
2 ans, 4 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I now added a write_xml = WriteElectronicInvoice() action to trading.VatProducInvoice and it basically works using the example XML. But before publishing my changes I will need to insert the data from the invoice instead of the hard-coded data in the example xml file. And IMHO I need to find an XSD ...
2 ans, 4 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : [url wp.itl.ee/files/IoB/uued/E-invoicing%20-%20syntax%20binding%20for%20EE%20and%20PEPPOL%20BIS3%20UBL.pdf Here is a document] that describes how e-invoicing operators ("access points") must convert between national Estonian format and PEPPOL.
2 ans, 4 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) (1 reply) : Next step might be to have Lino generate an xml file for sales invoice. Technicaly similar as what the sepa plugin does for a payment order.
2 ans, 4 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : On the [url docs.peppol.eu/poacc/billing/3.0/ Billing main page] there is an xslt file (xml stylesheet) and a zip file with example xml files.
2 ans, 4 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I'm reading [url docs.peppol.eu/poacc/billing/3.0/bis Peppol Businesss Operability Specification (BIS) Billing].
2 ans, 4 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : I got [url www.rsm.global/belgium/fr/insights/facturation-electronique-structuree-obligatoire-partir-de-2026#:~:text=Le%20gouvernement%20belge%20a%20report%C3%A9,syst%C3%A8me%20de%20facturation%20%C3%A9lectronique%20structur%C3%A9. a new link in French], which says tt's more than printing a QR code,...
2 ans, 4 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : In Lino it's probably easy: [url github.com/claudep/swiss-qr-bill], but then they want this in TIM.
2 ans, 4 mois ago by Luc Saffre about #5670 (Support Peppol e-invoicing using Ibanity) : Created new Ticket #5670 (Print QR code on sales invoices).